A separate Jewish State and Palestinian State?
Israel given under control of the United Nations, with Jews and Palestinians making 50% each of the government?
Or some other solution?
Sadlly, i think that if you are able to physically remove one from the other, as a parent would remove his children during a fight (if that is at all possible) this problem wont stop, much less separate Israel and Palestine state so close at hand.
Especially if one’s sole existence is to destroy the other, which has been ingrained since birth, through school. etc. And has no room to change his opinion on this, especially with the recent Israeli attack.
My solution is rather strong handed, and I dont wish to justify it to anyone who would like to question my methods.
To me one of them should cease to exist.
Dr. Indianapolis Johnson takes you along on his latest visit to the holy land…. in America no less.
All findings have been verified by Answers in Genesis and the Wyatt Archaeological Research.
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Filmed when I visited a roadside holyland attraction and found it abandoned on arrival, the whole thing was impromptu and improvised on the fly.
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Would you fight to Save the holy land?
I don’t think we will be able to when that happens !
Please don’t tell me this land is for one group only that would be a nightmare.
Yes, I do. It is coming. A new dawn of freedom. The winds of change; the peace bell is ringing.
Down with the Berlin Wall.
Down with the occupation.
Down with the hate and the war machine.
A new rebirth for the people of Palestine.
song from Rhythm of the Pride Lands
lyrics:[translation of Zulu]
Fatshe leso [Our land]
Lea halalela [Is holy]
(Repeat)
Uli-buse le lizwe [You must rule this land]
Izwe lethu [The land of the people]
Mhlaba wethu [Soil of the people]
Uli phathe Kahle [Handle it with care]
Izwe lethu [This land of ours]
Izwe lehtu [This land of ours]
(Chorus)
Uzo libusa [You will rule]
Le lizwe [This land]
Uli buse kahle [Rule it with care]
Uzo libusa [You will rule]
Le lizwe [This land]
Le lizwe [This land]
Fatshe leso [Our land]
Lea halalela [Is holy]
(Repeat)
Uli-buse le lizwe [You must rule this land]
lzwe lethu [The land of the people]
Mhlaba wethu [Soil of the people]
U’zuli qondise [Keep it in order]
Izwe lethu [This land of ours]
Izwe lethu [This land of ours]
(Chorus)
Fatshe leso [Our land]
Lea halalela [Is holy]
(Repeat)
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since the Quran doesn’t say jerusalem or all the holy land of palestine or israel whatever you want to call as the holy land.. only mecca.
I mean Islam considers Jerusalem and Hebron and other cities in Israel as holy places when the Quran doesn’t say anything about them.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/templemount.html
What exactly is the holy land in modern country?? I think it’s Palestine but I’m not sure. I’m talkin about the crusade between Christians and Muslims.
Yes, the holy land is Palestine.
when it’s full of violence among jewish and arabs.. meanwhile christians are in the middle.. I am catholic and I feel so bad that the land where jesus and the prophets lived is now suffering violence and each part of this land is something very appreciated but I don’t understand why doesn’t God stop this violence? I want to know if someday God will stop this violence and those groups who live now in the Holy Land will be able to live in Peace as God demand to love our enemies and to make the peace..
The violence is about Zionist Jews stealing what is not theirs!!!
Muslims ruled Palestine for over 1200 years. At that time it was holy and peaceful. Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived in that land and shared its beauty and Holiness. No one claimed any exclusive right to holy land back then.
The Zionist movement that spread in late 19th century among ATHEIST Europeans who were "blessed with Jewish mothers" called for building a Jewish-only state on an inhabited land by population transfer and ethnic cleansing.
Ben-Gurion wrote in 1937:
"With compulsory transfer we would have a vast area (for settlement) …. I support compulsory transfer. I don’t see anything immoral in it." (Righteous Victims, p. 144)
Even today, more than 80% of Israeli Jews are not Jews by religios meanings, but inharited Judaism from their mothers. Isn’t it odd that it is not the religious Jews who claim the "promised land to the chosen people" , it is the atheistic non-believing Jews who claim that honor?
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
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Palestinian Muslims and Christians have always maintained their majority in the holy land who owned more than 90% of Palestinian land, while Jews were minority (mostly recent immigrants) who bought 7% of land:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_mandate_of_palestine#Population
Before Jewish immigration was financially encouraged by Jewish agency, Jews made 1.7% of population in Palestine. Non-Jewish percentage was 98.3 %
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/israel_palestine_pop.html
Palestine is not "Jewish homeland" and Jews do not come from Palestine. Jews are not a race or special people!
Jewish origin is often presented by Jewish historians themselves. Like Shlomo Zand, Arthur Kostler, Alfred M. Lilienthal and others!
"The Jewish racial myth flows from the fact that the words Hebrew, ‘Israelite’, Jew, Judaism, and the Jewish people have been used synonymously to suggest a historic continuity. But this is a misuse. These words refer to different groups of people with varying ways of life in different periods in history. Hebrew is a term correctly applied to the period from the beginning of Biblical history to the settling in Canaan. ‘Israelite’ refers correctly to the members of the twelve tribes of ‘Israel’. The name Yehudi or Jew is used in the Old Testament to designate members of the tribe of Judah, descendants of the fourth son of Jacob, as well as to denote citizens of the Kingdom of Judah, particularly at the time of Jeremiah and under the Persian occupation. Centuries later, the same word came to be applied to anyone, no matter of what origin, whose religion was Judaism. "
Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal "What Price Israel?" (1953)
The Therteenth tribe :
"The book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry" who later claimed "historical ownership" of Palestine
Arthur Kostler -The Therteenth tribe
"There never was a Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile also never happened – hence there was no return. Zand rejects most of the stories of national-identity formation in the Bible, including the exodus from Egypt and, most satisfactorily, the horrors of the conquest under Joshua. It’s all fiction and myth that served as an excuse for the establishment of the State of Israel, he asserts."
Shlomo Zand – An invention called Jewish people.
I just like to know why they couldnt gain control over the holy land
Well they were far from home, hard to displace the natives, lack of manpower, some of the crusaders wanting to go home. This isn’t based on any previous historical knowledge, but I think they are pretty valid reasons why a coalition of bickering states could not project their power more than 1000 miles away in any lasting way.
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